Comments on: Twittering For Jobs…(Or Is It Tweeting?) http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/ A blog about recruitment advertising, media, publishing, HR, work, & technology, among other things Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:42:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: wmfischer http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31215 wmfischer Wed, 27 May 2009 10:31:10 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31215 Hi Toby,<br><br>We're happy to see good reporting in the recruitment space. <br><br>Free publishing platforms (email, wikipedia, craigslist, twitter, myspace, etc.) all have an issue over controlling who publishes. Consequently, each of those channels including, ironically, blogs (blogs and comments thereon have had their death foretold numerous times due to issues that you smartly raised in your blog and I'm addressing in comments) fall under criticism since they are notoriously difficult to search and verify. This critique always seems to appear once each of these platforms reaches millions of users and thousands of companies. <br><br>Our belief is that once these platforms scale, it's imperative to build trust systems, ranking protocols, junk filters, relevancy algorithms, intelligent search systems in order for them to continue to function and grow. This is what we're building for Twitter. Every day we parse millions of tweets with contextual search tools, we then put them through several different validation processes (check links, block accounts, our own tweet ranking system), we index them, we use crowdsourcing, and then we use our proprietary relevancy algorithms to present them. Twitter presents a very difficult signal/noise issue but every day our systems get better at excluding results. <br><br>We're not a key word search engine or a hash tags engine, we're taking on the challenge of analyzing all tweets and as a consequence we are finding job tweets from thousands of small businesses worldwide that can't be found anywhere else plus an index of other jobs posted to Twitter. We're also building tools for other social media sites and other categories. <br><br>Getting the right search results is hard (we look at over 1.5 billion records to find the best 10 to show) and we're appreciative of all feedback on how we can improve them helps us build a better product. <br><br>Cheers,<br>Bill<br><a href="http://twitterjobsearch.com" rel="nofollow">http://twitterjobsearch.com</a><br>@williamfischer Hi Toby,

We're happy to see good reporting in the recruitment space.

Free publishing platforms (email, wikipedia, craigslist, twitter, myspace, etc.) all have an issue over controlling who publishes. Consequently, each of those channels including, ironically, blogs (blogs and comments thereon have had their death foretold numerous times due to issues that you smartly raised in your blog and I'm addressing in comments) fall under criticism since they are notoriously difficult to search and verify. This critique always seems to appear once each of these platforms reaches millions of users and thousands of companies.

Our belief is that once these platforms scale, it's imperative to build trust systems, ranking protocols, junk filters, relevancy algorithms, intelligent search systems in order for them to continue to function and grow. This is what we're building for Twitter. Every day we parse millions of tweets with contextual search tools, we then put them through several different validation processes (check links, block accounts, our own tweet ranking system), we index them, we use crowdsourcing, and then we use our proprietary relevancy algorithms to present them. Twitter presents a very difficult signal/noise issue but every day our systems get better at excluding results.

We're not a key word search engine or a hash tags engine, we're taking on the challenge of analyzing all tweets and as a consequence we are finding job tweets from thousands of small businesses worldwide that can't be found anywhere else plus an index of other jobs posted to Twitter. We're also building tools for other social media sites and other categories.

Getting the right search results is hard (we look at over 1.5 billion records to find the best 10 to show) and we're appreciative of all feedback on how we can improve them helps us build a better product.

Cheers,
Bill
http://twitterjobsearch.com
@williamfischer

]]> By: Harley http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31210 Harley Wed, 20 May 2009 19:14:59 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31210 Good insights into the positive benefits and limitations of a tool. Well described. Good insights into the positive benefits and limitations of a tool. Well described.

]]> By: Gary Alan Miller http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31209 Gary Alan Miller Wed, 20 May 2009 13:29:16 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31209 Very solid point, and it's one that I've been hammering home with my students. Twitter is a very useful tool and one that should be leveraged. But, it's just one source in a world of sources. <br><br>The downside of the social media revolution related to jobs and personal branding is that it can very easily breed over-reliance. This is especially true with college-aged individuals, who are very comfortable with the medium. So, incorporate it. Use it to its full potential. But, the message should be, IMO, that Twitter is one tool in your tool belt. Very solid point, and it's one that I've been hammering home with my students. Twitter is a very useful tool and one that should be leveraged. But, it's just one source in a world of sources.

The downside of the social media revolution related to jobs and personal branding is that it can very easily breed over-reliance. This is especially true with college-aged individuals, who are very comfortable with the medium. So, incorporate it. Use it to its full potential. But, the message should be, IMO, that Twitter is one tool in your tool belt.

]]> By: What Would Dad Say » Twitter Me This http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31208 What Would Dad Say » Twitter Me This Tue, 19 May 2009 19:25:10 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31208 [...] to financial heaven, and the rage is all twittering now, so that must be it.  Toby Dayton in his DIGGINGS blog analyzes just one of the industries now fully engaging twitterers on [...] [...] to financial heaven, and the rage is all twittering now, so that must be it.  Toby Dayton in his DIGGINGS blog analyzes just one of the industries now fully engaging twitterers on [...]

]]> By: Anita Bruzzese http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31207 Anita Bruzzese Mon, 18 May 2009 13:39:01 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31207 Toby,<br>You've made a lot of great points here, Toby. As Steven said, that "silver bullet" out there can't be found in job searching. In my interviews with dozens of employers, they always say the same thing: Most of the people they interview and/or hire come from someone they know recommending the person, or through personal contact with them. And that doesn't mean Twitter. Great post. Toby,
You've made a lot of great points here, Toby. As Steven said, that “silver bullet” out there can't be found in job searching. In my interviews with dozens of employers, they always say the same thing: Most of the people they interview and/or hire come from someone they know recommending the person, or through personal contact with them. And that doesn't mean Twitter. Great post.

]]> By: StevenRothberg http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31204 StevenRothberg Sat, 16 May 2009 16:47:49 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31204 Great article, Toby. I hope that the Twitter fanatics will understand that you're not anti-Twitter but instead see Twitter as just one of many tools that good recruiters and marketers should be using. There is this tendency to look for a silver bullet, think it has been found, put all resources into it, be disappointed, blame the tool, look for a new silver bullet, think it has been found, etc. Great article, Toby. I hope that the Twitter fanatics will understand that you're not anti-Twitter but instead see Twitter as just one of many tools that good recruiters and marketers should be using. There is this tendency to look for a silver bullet, think it has been found, put all resources into it, be disappointed, blame the tool, look for a new silver bullet, think it has been found, etc.

]]> By: eric shannon http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31203 eric shannon Sat, 16 May 2009 12:20:18 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31203 well said Toby!! i've been thinking the same... well said Toby!! i've been thinking the same…

]]> By: Career Sherpa http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/2009/05/15/twittering-for-jobsor-is-it-tweeting/comment-page-1/#comment-31202 Career Sherpa Sat, 16 May 2009 09:20:40 +0000 http://blogs.jobdig.com/diggings/?p=1130#comment-31202 Toby, just found your tweet about Twitter. Great insight. Also love your visuals in your blog! I look forward to reading more. Toby, just found your tweet about Twitter. Great insight. Also love your visuals in your blog! I look forward to reading more.

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